Notes From a Neuro Nerd: The Science Behind Living Your Best Life
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Notes From a Neuro Nerd: The Science Behind Living Your Best Life
101. How To Become A Digital Nomad & Build A Thriving Online Business | The Rich Mind Podcast
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In this replay episode from the Rich Mind Podcast, we're sharing our journey from traditional jobs to building a successful online business while traveling the world.
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- Discover how to transition into the digital nomad lifestyle and create an income from anywhere.
- Learn the strategies we used to start and grow our online coaching business.
- Get actionable tips for finding clients, developing valuable skills, and embracing the entrepreneurial mindset.
- Understand how to navigate the challenges and opportunities of working remotely as a couple.
- Explore the importance of personal growth, mentorship, and trusting your intuition on your entrepreneurial path.
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Hello and welcome to the Profitable Nomad Couple podcast. This is a show where we share all of our secrets about building a sustainable, location-independent lifestyle.
Speaker 2:We're Austin and Monica. We're a digital nomad couple here to help you develop an entrepreneurial mindset, ignite your passions and develop a purpose-driven online business.
Speaker 1:Get ready for weekly insights and inspiring stories to empower you to live life on your own terms.
Speaker 2:So are you ready to unlock the nomad mindset and embrace a life of limitless possibilities? Let's dive in. Hey listener, just a quick note before we jump into this week's episode. This episode was first aired on the Rich Mind podcast with Randy Wilson. In this episode, you're going to hear us talking about how we transitioned into the digital nomad lifestyle, some strategies that Monica and I have used to start and grow our own online coaching business. We're also going to give some tips for finding clients, developing valuable skills so you can jump into your nomad lifestyle, embracing the entrepreneurial mindset, how to navigate the challenges and opportunities that come with working as a couple, and all sorts of other tips related to personal growth, mentorship, trusting your intuition on your entrepreneur path. And I just want to encourage you to go listen to the Rich Mind podcast. Randy Wilson is an excellent host. Has some really great episodes on living a more abundant life. With that said, let's jump into the episode on living a more abundant life.
Speaker 3:With that said, let's jump into the episode. All right, everyone, welcome back to the Rich Mind Podcast and today, super excited about the guests that I'm about to bring on. We were just having a conversation before we hit record here and, even though we've just recently been connected, just their story what they're actually trying to do out there in the world really resonates with the story that I'm trying to present here on the Rich Mind Podcast, which is to encourage you to go out there, become more, potentially, start your own business, and just navigating all of that life stuff that gets in the way I don't know how else to put it, I just call it stuff. So if you're in that place where you're trying to just figure out what's next, right, I know a lot of times people are talking about the economy kind of being in a mess. Maybe you're in a job that you don't necessarily care for and you're just looking for what's next. Well, today's guests, I think, are going to be fantastic, and it's actually a duo, it's a husband and wife couple. It's going to be a fantastic conversation. So today I have with us Austin and Monica Mangelson.
Speaker 3:Austin and Monica are experienced digital nomads who have built successful online businesses while exploring the world. With a combined 17 plus years of nomading in 10 plus countries, they've gained valuable insights into building and scaling online ventures. As certified life purpose coaches, they help others travel lovers create purpose and build their dream businesses. They are digital nomad coaches. They help others travel lovers create purpose and build their dream businesses. They are digital nomad coaches, location independent entrepreneurs, travel enthusiasts and also fellow podcast hosts, and their podcast is called the Profitable Nomad Couple, and I've been kind of binging on a few episodes here in the last few days as I was getting prepared for this interview, and it's fantastic content. So my wife and I, we've been partners in our businesses in the past, and so to have that dynamic of husband and wife working close together, it can be intense, but it can also be very enjoyable. So, without further ado, let me stop babbling. Let me bring Austin and Monica on the show here. It's going to be a fantastic conversation I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, randy. Thank you for that introduction and just a huge thank you for inviting us onto your platform, onto your show, and for opening up the space to have a conversation with you. We're looking forward to diving into a little bit more of our story and also, just like you said, helping people navigate life stuff. There's a lot of things that everyone's juggling all the time, a lot of different plates that we're spinning, especially in the entrepreneur space, so we're excited to help people out with that and talk about it some more with you.
Speaker 3:Don't you like that technical term, the stuff.
Speaker 2:I just coined it the stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know how else to put it, just to keep it super simple, but yes, it's going to be a lot of fun. So simple, but yes, it's going to be a lot of fun. So I went through a lot of the high level 30,000 foot view bullet point list of everything about you. Take a few minutes, individually or collectively, however you guys want to bounce back and forth with your stories. I'm just curious Can you tell everybody a little bit more about yourselves, kind of where you've been where you are now, kind of how you ventured through this space of? I mean, what is a nomad? What's a digital nomad? What does that even mean Exactly? Just go through all that story and share with us a little bit more about yourself.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, we'd love to. I'll just start Monica, and maybe you can jump in when you want and correct me when I'm wrong, I guess. So Monica and I we've been married for almost six years. We got married back in 2018. We were college sweethearts, so our apartment complex shared a parking lot. We also went to the same church and I was assigned in our church to be like a minister of sorts to her and her roommates. I was immediately interested in just Monica.
Speaker 1:It took a little bit more convincing to get her interested back at me.
Speaker 2:A lot of bit more convincing if we're being honest. But I mean ever since the get go like right from the beginning, monica and I have always shared a love of traveling and adventuring together During those college years. You know, you, just like your notorious college student, you don't have a whole lot of money, and neither did we. But we always prioritized going on road trips. We prioritized going out and finding things in the community to go do and participate in hiking where we could, road tripping to our families all over the West coast Whenever we could. We actually were river rafting guides one summer in between semesters down in Utah. So that was always like a foundational pillar, I guess, in our relationship and that's carried over into the business that we created later down the road.
Speaker 2:We wanted to find a way after we were graduated from college to continue adventuring. We weren't really ready to dive into grad school and full-on adult jobs quite yet when we graduated, and so we're looking around for different things to do and we had some friends who had taught English in China taught English in Thailand. So we went through a couple companies. One after another fell through for different reasons. One of them was timing, one of them was because they had two positions in Thailand, but then each one was in a different part of the country. We're like, well, we're not going to go live in Thailand for a year apart. We just got married. So different things like that. Every plan that we had timeline got a little bit longer. It's like our first plan was we're going to go teach for one semester, teach English in China, and then it was six months and then it was a full year and then eventually we landed on the Peace Corps. So, if you don't know, the Peace Corps is a government institution. It's a program. It's a really neat program that the government has put together to basically advocate for, you know, being a good citizen, a good global citizen, and they'll send US citizens across the world to in a bunch of different sectors. So there's agriculture, healthcare, business, all sorts of different things, and you go for two years and you are like integrating into this community in a different country and helping in whatever sector you're in. So we were assigned to the in the health sector. We had jobs as HIV and malaria prevention and awareness advocates for the youth.
Speaker 2:That one also fell through, unfortunately because of COVID this time. So we had everything planned, we had our suitcases packed, we had, our leases were sold and gone and we were just basically ready to walk out the door and COVID shut everything down and, as one of those things like for a lot of people, we didn't know how long it was going to last, and so we got a message from the peace corps saying, um, you know, just, we're not going to be able to send you out right now. Just hold tight. Um, we were kind of expecting a couple weeks.
Speaker 2:Uh, this was april of 2020, and then the timeline just kept getting extended and extended and we would get notices from them saying, okay, another month, okay, another two months. And eventually we just stopped hearing back from the Peace Corps altogether. So we spent that entire summer just in limbo, just waiting for something outside of ourselves, some other entity to tell us things have changed enough for you to move on and do something and I think I might hot potato it over to you, monica, because I feel like this is you're really good at sharing this part of our story but we were really frustrated that we couldn't move on with what felt like we could move on with our lives. We just felt like stuck waiting for someone else to give us permission to move on with our lives.
Speaker 1:We just felt like stuck waiting for someone else to give us permission to move on, oh, and frustrated doesn't even cover it. We were a mess for a long time and we were fortunate enough that Austin's parents took us in because, like we said, we sold our housing contract and we weren't looking to get into another one because we thought we were going to move to Africa at any moment, and so we ended up living with Austin's parents for what ended up being a really long time, and then we were able to get kind of dead end jobs in the healthcare sector, which was really really nice for us financially but really hard for us mentally and physically. I appreciate anybody who does any kind of caretaking job. We all need you and we love you and thank you for doing it, because it's really hard, absolutely. And yeah, like Austin was saying, it's just sitting around waiting for somebody else to say okay, you can live your life again, continue with your plans, continue growing and moving on.
Speaker 1:And I got so sick and tired of it and, plus, I was working with a lot of elderly people who were watching the news all the time, so that didn't help. I was always angry, I was just, and I'm not an angry person, I'm genuinely a very happy person, but I was just not myself. I was angry, I was depressed, I was sad, and I remember going on a lot of really long walks trying to process what was going on. And then also, austin and I worked separate schedules. So often he would get up at like six in the morning and he would leave, and if we were lucky, our schedules would overlap for like 20 minutes in the middle of the day that we could rush home and see each other and say, hey, I'm still alive. And then I would run out the door and I would be gone until like one in the morning on my shifts, and so we never, ever saw each other.
Speaker 1:And I was like this is not what I wanted to do after college. I did not want to be living with my in-laws, I did not want to be never seeing my husband, I did not want to be stuck in this place of anger where I just didn't have any control of my life anymore. And so I started Pinterest shopping for a new life is what I like to tell people and I created a secret Pinterest board and I was researching how people can travel and make money and all these things, and I wanted to be respectful of Austin, because I knew he was also grieving. But I was like I cannot do this anymore. I'm so done.
Speaker 1:And so I created the secret Pinterest board. I did all this research. I essentially created a PowerPoint presentation to show him. I was like, look, this is what we can do. We can start our own business, we can start traveling, and that's what it took for us to be able to take off. So, by the end of 2020, we both, like cold turkey, quit our jobs and threw everything into growing an online business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so our launch into our online business wasn't because we had an idea we wanted to get out there. It wasn't because we had a service we were passionate about providing for us. The drive initially was we need a different life. Like we need to. We need to feel more in control of our own lives. We need to create something for ourselves that gets us out of where we're currently living. Um, so we had no idea what, what the possibilities were. We just, like Monica, said she, she came across this course that taught you how to become a virtual assistant and it was I don't even remember a few hundred dollars. We're like you know what we can invest that right now, like we can afford that. We'll go into that. We'll spend our next month, month and a half, just working really hard at it and then we'll get some clients and we'll be good to go.
Speaker 2:And our business has, oh my gosh, it's gone through so many different iterations and pivots and revisions and we're not doing anything close to what we were doing then. But it's been an awesome, awesome journey and our motives have changed, our services have changed. We've changed a lot as people and now that's actually kind of what we help people do now. Funny enough is, we know that there's a lot of people who are feeling the same thing that we were feeling. They're feeling stuck, they're feeling frustrated, they're feeling like they want to be more in control of their lives and they want to create an online business to do that, but they just don't know what the options are. They don't know the first steps to take, and so that's kind of where we step in and help provide those options and guide people through that whole process, because we wish we had someone to guide us through when we were doing that whole thing ourselves.
Speaker 3:We wish we had someone to guide us through when we were doing that whole thing ourselves, love that so that, as I mentioned to you before we hit record here, that story resonates a lot with mine. And that's where the control piece I feel I know I did and I've spoken to others and I feel like it's the control is what everybody is missing Just having control of your calendar, even if you're working hard. It's like we mentioned also today. It's like we've been working hard all day but at the end of the day, it's our choice to do what we're doing Right, and then we can always shut it down or take a break or whatever, and I think it's that variety of life is what's so intriguing. But at the same time, it's not necessarily easy either and hopefully we can dig a little bit deeper in some of the challenges that come along with that For you to just up and quit and move on.
Speaker 3:I mean it sounds like you were pressed to the edge of what you wanted to do. So the question I was coming through as you were telling that story and thank you for sharing so much like you did was did you have any type of people to model after? Or where did you get the inspiration or where did the idea of a Pinterest board with you know where did you get the inspiration? Or where did the idea of a pinterest board with you know? Where did you even begin that process? I'm just curious um.
Speaker 1:We neither one of us have entrepreneurs in our family, if that's what you're asking, well, we thought we didn't.
Speaker 2:We learned later, after we had started a business like tech. So monica's dad is a doctor, but technically also a business owner.
Speaker 1:He owns his own practice and I didn't even know it until we had been in business for like a year and I was like being a business owner is hard. And he's like, yeah, I know, and I'm like, yeah, why?
Speaker 2:would you?
Speaker 1:know dad, but apparently he owns his own business and I had no idea. So essentially, for all intents and purposes, we didn't have anybody to kind of model that for us, which is why we did heavily invest in education and just mentors and people who have been there before, because we wanted it so bad. We needed it so bad that we were looking for people who had created that kind of freedom and we just went to them and we made them our mentors.
Speaker 3:So have you found that it's just as important to weed through or dig through, because there's a lot of information out there as far as people are selling you this course or trying to promote this product? How difficult was that? Did you have any stumbling blocks when it comes to getting started? Did you come across some of the folks that maybe didn't have your best interest at heart? Let's just put it that way. You don't have to obviously get into specifics, but yeah, just curious how tough that transition was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what? That's a really good question. Monica and I have invested in lots of different programs throughout the past few years and we actually we've taken a lot of time to look back at them and think was this a good investment that we made? Was it a good use of our money? What did we learn from it? And we've been in several programs that have not been the greatest, just to say it bluntly.
Speaker 2:People who didn't have our best interest in mind, people who it was a bit more of a money grab, but regardless, I think we've learned something from every experience and from everything that we've bought into, some more than others, yes, but I feel like you also learn from some of the bad investments you make. You either learn I guess one thing you learn is a ways not to do things. You learn marketing tactics that you feel like you don't align with, or sales strategies that you don't align with, and so we learned a lot of things like that along the way. But ultimately, like we did learn something from everything that we put money into, and now where we're at, we have more information so that when we make future investments, we know, based on what we've already put money into, we're like okay, whatever we pay into a mentorship or a program like this, here's what we want, and we know we want that because of what we've experienced.
Speaker 3:Love that. Do you have a strategy of any kind? I know I have one. I'm just curious if you have one at all. As far as when you discover somebody or a program or anything like that, Do you have a strategy to kind of dig as deep as you possibly can into whatever they have going on to try to pull out whether or not they are legitimate or not? Do you have a way that you guys do that to kind of flesh it out and see if it's going to be right for you?
Speaker 1:I would love to hear your strategy on this, because I think our strategy is a lot less in depth than it sounds like yours is.
Speaker 1:I think for us, the biggest thing is just a gut check, because at the end of the day, we're building a business. For us that cannot look like anybody else's, because our life is so different than everyone else's, we are so different and I think that's true of any business owner is you need to make your business yours, so nobody is going to have the perfect solution for you, and so for us, it's a really big always check in why. Why are we doing this business? Where are we going? What is our ultimate goal? Is this going to get us closer to it? And do we feel like, really aligned with this person? What is our gut saying? And just really leaning into that intuition side of things which is very hard when people are bombarding you with different things and you don't always know the answer, because you're new at this and you're trying to learn but really really leaning into that gut feeling has been a huge lifesaver for us. But I would be really curious to know what your method is.
Speaker 3:And I'll share it and I'll try to keep it brief. Right, this is all about you guys. But yeah, since you asked, I'm a podcast junkie, so that's usually my first go-to is I will see if they have content out there in the marketplace and I will just go as deep as I need to and just hear what they say. I really just try to pay attention to what they say. Are they coherent with their messages? Meaning, are they saying one thing one day and then flipping around and trying to sell you this product this day and then a lot of times? I just will do like review checks. I will try to dig as deep as I possibly can on the internet and just make sure that what they're saying is valuable.
Speaker 3:I love the idea and you're exactly correct. Once you start your own business, you have to start learning marketing and sales right, and so when you learn those tactics and those skills, you can almost look on other people's tactics and skills and see if it is over the top or if it's. Are they just trying to get a reaction out of you? And I think I've heard you say, Monica, and you too, Austin, in your podcast is that becoming a business owner is like the biggest personal growth experience you could ever go through in your entire life, and part of that is just the discovery of your emotions. It's like you said tapping into your intuition, you can really get a good gut feeling from somebody, even if it's virtual, and hopefully folks will get that feeling when they're listening to us on this, on this episode right About who we are right, If we're genuine or not.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if that was maybe as tactical as you were looking for, but I love the idea with the intuition and then I will sit with it. So a lot of times my business decisions are made by myself. So I said, my wife and I have had a partnership in the past, but a lot of the things that we're doing now is like I'm trying to do my thing, she's trying to do yours. I'm curious about the dynamic you mentioned about having your own goals together. Talk about that a little bit, I mean, I would assume and again, I've been married for a very long time, a little bit more than six years, but anyways, at the same time, just that dynamic of back and forth, making sure, obviously, at the end of the day, you come back together to whatever that main goal is how does that work, or how has that worked and has it been any um challenges, obviously in the first few years of of your life together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this is a really fun topic to talk about. I'm not going to claim to be any expert on this by any means, um, so it's kind of a blessing. I don't want to say a blessing and a curse, cause it's not a curse, but there are some really really great things that come with it and some really challenging things.
Speaker 1:Watch yourself here, okay.
Speaker 3:Let me clarify what I'm saying then yeah, so I think rewind that one back a little bit. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2:So I'll start with the. The challenge is Monica and I view things differently. So let's say I have an idea of a direction that we want our business to go, or someone we want to invest in, or a new offer we want to create and try out with our people, and Monica doesn't think it's going to work or has a different idea and thinks our time and our money should be spent somewhere else. Sometimes that can be frustrating to to feel like we both have different visions for where we want to go. The blessing is Monica and I think differently, and so it is really helpful to have this person by your side who's like you know what, austin, have you considered this? Have you looked at it this way? And sometimes it's really nice when, like just recently, kind of connecting these two parts of the conversations we were just having, we've been looking to invest in some sort of business mastermind to help us kind of take us to the next level in our business, and so we were on a couple different sales calls with with different people, and at the end of each call, monica and I, you know we'll shut our computer down and we'll look at each other, we'll talk about how the call went and on both calls we felt basically the exact same. So we're like okay, now that's a good indicator of you know where we need to go and what we need to do next.
Speaker 2:But it is helpful when we disagree on something, you have to kind of argue your point a little bit. You know, it's like if I want to do something with their business that Monica doesn't agree with, I have to explain why I want to do it. And sometimes in my own explanation I'm like, oh, you know what, actually, maybe that's not such a good idea. You might be right on this one. And other times I'm like, yeah, you know what, the more I'm explaining it, the stronger I mind about it a little bit, and so we we get on the same track a little bit. So that's been a really, really helpful. It's just having that extra person to see things from a different point of view and different lens. I don't know if that answered your question.
Speaker 3:No, it did, it did. I'm curious what Monica thinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say the biggest learning curve for us has been learning to divide the tasks according to our strengths, because at first we were trying to do everything together and it just was so clunky and it took forever because it took twice as long for two people to do one task than it would for just one person to do it. And then it was kind of this well, this is the fun job, I want to do it. But then it was like but I want to also do that fun job. And it took us some internal introspection, lots of learning, to figure out that Austin is a really good integrator. He is so good at the systems, he's good at the numbers, he's really good at that.
Speaker 1:Where I am much more like the relational side of our business, I'm much more like the big picture visionary, and it took us a while to realize that those separate roles are both very important but different and it looks different and so being able to divide tasks according to who's better at it is so necessary. And then also there's a big element of letting go. So now that I've stepped more into the visionary, the customer relation side of our business, there's a lot of the small details that I need to let go because that's not my expertise. And what's the point of me stumbling over them and questioning everything we're doing when I don't even know? I don't know very much about the backend of our systems or things like that, and so there's a big element of we talk it out, but then I know, at the end of the day, that's Austin's domain and I have to trust him, and so there is a little bit of that give and take as well. Hopefully I explained that really well. I don't know if I did.
Speaker 3:You did. So one thing I want to I is that from the book traction, the integrator and the visionary Is that am?
Speaker 2:I picking up that preference. It might be. I think it's from rocket university is where we heard it. I don't know if that's the ones who wrote the book.
Speaker 3:Rocket fuel.
Speaker 2:There it is. Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I was trying to think of if we could just throw a little nugget out there for somebody, if they're looking for that type of wisdom for themselves, whether they're trying to build a team and that type of thing. So I apologize for not getting that quite 100% accurate, but yeah, you did answer that. So then, how difficult is that? So, monica, I'm relating to you because I'm more of the visionary in our household as well. Stacey, she was actually just out there working on a. That's my wife, stacey. She's out there working on a spreadsheet, doing all kinds of stuff and crunching, and I'm like that, just like my eyes glaze over. I don't even want to think about it.
Speaker 3:But doing this with you it's like this is a blast, but this is work too. But she doesn't. You know what I mean. It's just a different way of looking at everything. Curious, how difficult for you has it been to give up some of those things? Because when you begin your entrepreneurial journey, and then there again, I'll put myself in the driver's seat there as far as saying that you have to do everything, you know what I mean. You're doing the whole nine yards, but then you have to start delegating, and that's my question how difficult. Was that for you, or has it been?
Speaker 2:I feel like I feel like Monica and I we have it's not like super defined roles necessarily and I feel like our vision for our business is big enough that there's still some crossover.
Speaker 2:And like just recently, for example, monica was saying we had an event going on with another coach and online event that we were putting on, and I had all of these ideas coming and I felt really inspired I guess is the word. I just felt like I had a lot of ideas coming about where we wanted to take this event and how we wanted to run it, what we wanted to do with it, and then with the new event we're doing this coming month, and then sometimes I feel super overwhelmed. I'm like hey, monica, like we need to create this Facebook group, we need to create this email, can you do it for me? And she goes and does it, and so she does some of the integrator role. So I feel like in our situation we we have kind of these general things that we do, but there's still also almost always a lot of crossover and we we help each other out a lot, um, and just ask each other to help out where we feel like we're lacking or where we feel like we need it, which has been helpful.
Speaker 1:I'm going to um throw Austin under the bus just a little bit here and say that if it wasn't right next to you.
Speaker 3:That's a good thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess we're going under the bus together.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:Let's go. If it wasn't for me, I don't know that Austin ever would have become a business owner.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true.
Speaker 1:For a long time I felt like the business was my responsibility because I was the one who drug us into it, and so it was so hard for me. I literally could not, like you said, I couldn't do all the little integration things. It was so overwhelming I couldn't do all the little integration things. It was so overwhelming I couldn't pick platforms, I couldn't do the spreadsheets. But I felt like I had to because I felt like it was my fault that we were here and I didn't want it to stress out Austin because, again, my fault that we're here. And so it was hard for me to learn, to accept that I had weaknesses, there were things that I just I'm not good at, and so what's the point of me trying to do them if I'm terrible at them? So I would say there was a big for me personally, there was a big learning curve of just learning to let go of certain things.
Speaker 3:It's tough. Once again, that resonates a lot with me and my wife as well. So, uh, from someone that's been married, uh, almost 28 years, speaking to a younger couple, it sounds like you guys are on the right path and so congratulations, cause it's yeah, so yeah, good for you. Seriously, I really mean that, just from the conversation we've had so far, it sounds like you guys have are together as a unit, and that's sometimes the most difficult piece is that when times get tough and you guys are going to obviously have some challenges, but, yeah, it sounds like you're coming together and obviously succeeding and that's super cool.
Speaker 3:So, at some point I want to get into the whole businesses and all that, what you've built and all that kind of stuff. But I've got one other thing I wanted to just ask as far as the relationship, because it's just a question that I have right. So, monica, once again, when we jumped into the entrepreneurial world for my family, my wife is the same way, meaning she wasn't necessarily the one that was willing or didn't really feel it. My question is if someone's out there listening today and their spouse whether it's husband or wife doesn't really matter, just their couple is maybe a little bit of a pushback, how were you able to? I don't know if convince is the right word, persuade maybe might be the better word.
Speaker 3:And same thing with you, austin. If you've got any answers to that. I'm curious if someone's out there thinking, okay, I want to do this and I would love for my spouse to come along, but there's no way. There's no way which then will keep them from at least even taking that first step. I'm curious how that dialogue and how that went there at the very first beginning stages.
Speaker 1:This is a really really good question. The first thing to realize is that your spouse might just have different tolerances than you as far as like security, risks and risk taking and things like that, and so recognizing where they're coming from is a place of love. It never has to be a you versus them kind of thing. For me in Austin especially, I am obviously the entrepreneur, I'm the risk taker here in this relationship, and so recognizing that he was still grieving the Peace Corps in our situation, but also that this was a scary thing for him, and so he needed some assurances that I needed to be able to give, and so for us we looked at it Financially it was a big one, and so we said, look, we've been working really hard and spending virtually no money because of COVID and we can't spend money on anything anyway. So we have a runway of six months. If we quit our jobs and throw everything into this and by six months we're not making any money, we'll call it quits Easy, and it's always been for me.
Speaker 1:I've always made sure that Austin knows that he comes first. So we've had some, really as all business owners do, we've had some really hard times in our business. We're like what are we doing? Why do we do this? And it's always been a conversation like, as soon as you want, as soon as you need to, we'll pull the plug and we'll go back and we'll get jobs, we'll make something work and, as we have built a business together and he's tasted it and he's had that freedom, neither one of us can ever go back now. But we've had really serious conversations where we're like it has to be our relationship first over the business always, and so that's always been a priority for us.
Speaker 1:So, just recognizing that they have different tolerances than you, so you might need to provide different assurances, you might need to be able to help them in that and recognizing that it comes from a place of love always Well, I guess I can't always say always, but for the most part I would say it comes from a place of love.
Speaker 1:The other thing to recognize is sometimes you need to go first. You might have a dream of being a business owner and your spouse doesn't, and that's okay because it's your dream, and so you might need to take out the lead and start walking in that direction, start showing them success, start showing them what you're learning, and be the person to go first and maybe they'll join you and maybe they won't, and that has to be okay because it, ultimately, is still your dream and so you can't put that on hold. You need to be following that because you were given that dream for a reason, and I think you'll be surprised at how different people become when you take the steps to start changing first. And that goes with business, that goes with any self-improvement things that you're doing. People around you want to be things that you're doing, um, people around you want to be better when you're becoming better, um. So yeah, I think that's my, my complete thought with that that's a great one.
Speaker 3:Anything to add, austin?
Speaker 2:um, I think I should have gone first, because you basically said everything I've written down.
Speaker 2:I'm like I want to make sure I touch on this. Yeah, I just want to add to the fact that this is the point that Monica made. Everyone has different risk tolerances. Monica is a much bigger risk taker than I am. I'm going to assume. If you're the one starting, who's wanting to start a business with your partner, you're probably the bigger risk taker in the relationship.
Speaker 2:So what can you do to mitigate that risk a little bit for your partner? So Monica said, like, have some savings built up. So like, if you're worried about running out of money, especially if you have kids you're taking care of, like how much money do you need? How much of a runway do you need saved up? So let's say you save up, you have six months expenses saved up, maybe you have one year of expenses saved up. You give yourself that time. You say, like Monica said, if it's not working by that point we'll go back, we'll pull the plug. So make sure that you can find a way. Like, whatever it is that your partner is worried about, how can you mitigate that worry and mitigate that risk? And also, like Monica said, because she's so wise, make sure that your partner always knows that they come first, whatever happens, um.
Speaker 2:Another thing I wanted to add is to explain why you want to do it. Um, and I feel like, if you come at it from like, you can come at it from numbers and say, oh, we can make this much money and, um, you know, go live in this dream house if, if this works out. But if you come at it from a, this is why it's an important thing for me to do. This is why I'm drawn to starting this business. Here's the emotional side of it for me. I feel like I can provide better for my family if I'm doing this. Instead of that, I feel like that approach is going to reach the other person a lot better.
Speaker 2:And then the last point I wanted to make Monica kind of touched on this too was the answer might be no. You might explain to them why it's important to you. You might mitigate all the risk for them. You might have conversations for years about this and the answer might always be no, I'm not interested, or no, I don't want to, and that's OK. That's OK If that's the answer. That's that's their choice to make that. And I think at that point maybe it's just. You know how can you compromise Like maybe the option is you go into business and they don't? Maybe I don't know what all the options of the compromise would be, but find ways at that point to find a solution that you're both happy with and both content with.
Speaker 1:I feel like this is a really good example of how Austin and I work, where I'm like here's the idea, the big picture, and he's like let me break this down and make it easy to understand. That was really well said, austin.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, it was, and I agreed with every, every point, because that's exactly what we've done. My wife and I is like you said, that the relationship has always been number one. We've always made sure that whatever we agree upon, it's an agreement right. It's not me making a decision without her being on board, and then it was just a lot of patience for me to encourage, to make her understand that there could be a different way. And, like you said, saving up, making a plan. It's surprising to me, when I've had conversations with folks, how they, when you just even mentioned that basic idea of saving some runway right, having whatever the number is it could be three months, six months, 12 months, two, whatever the number is for you to make you feel comfortable. But that's what we did as well. We made sure that we had enough set aside that when we said this was it, you know, circle, that date on the calendar, we were ready to go and hit the ground running and it's like Lisa, we built into it which. So, once again, I just wanted to reiterate that everything you shared is that's what we've done, and not only have we been, you know, a little bit successful with our businesses all right, and then we're trying to continue to do more, but at the same time, the relationship didn't fall apart, which I hear stories about how couples not be able to work together and all those kinds of things, which is why it's so intriguing to talk to you guys and how well you're doing, which is super cool. So let's pivot. Let's go into the business side of what exactly you guys are doing.
Speaker 3:You've mentioned a couple of times that you've pivoted a couple of times. I don't know if you want to take us all the way back to the beginning. You'd mentioned about possibly doing like a VA thing or a virtual assistant. If anybody's not familiar with the term VA, virtual assistant is what that stands for. Go back as far as you want. But as far as let's talk about, let's say, somebody has either they're going to do it themselves or we're having couples conversations, but let's say it's like, hey, I'm in, they're raising their hands like I want to do this, but I have no idea where to begin. What advice would you give to that person or that couple?
Speaker 2:All right, I say we just go back to the beginning. I have several thoughts and points that are going through my head, but, taking it back to the beginning, we took a course on becoming virtual assistants and that was, for us, a very, very good way to get started, because the course that we took wasn't any one niche in virtual assisting. It was like let's give you the. Let's go broad and shallow on all these different things. Let's learn email marketing, let's learn graphic design, let's learn website building, let's learn project management. Just learn a little bit about everything. And so we did. We learned a little bit about everything, which gave us really great experiences when we were taking on our first clients. We learned so much about the backend of business and how things run and the operations and the processes and um client management, and it gave us a lot of those skills that we use today, um as a foundation, um. So we did that for about a year or so, but what happened was we were working in other people's businesses doing what they needed to do or needed done, and we realized we just felt like employees again and we felt like we weren't creating a business of our own. We just felt like we were helping other people build theirs and we realized we really wanted to build something that's ours, something where, if we feel like this isn't working, we can make the choice to pivot, because we had several clients who we thought were doing things were like that's kind of dumb, you know, or hey, this obviously isn't working, let's change things. But it wasn't our call to make you know as their virtual assistant. So we're like let's build something where we can make those calls. So we made a list of all the different tasks that we did as a virtual assistant, just literally just brainstormed everything we did and we went through one by one, and we did this separately, by the way, independently from each other. We like highlighted the ones that we enjoyed doing and would want to do more of and just crossed off all the ones where I have no interest in doing any more of this ever again. And then we sat down together and compared our lists and looked at all the things that were similar between the two of them and there were a couple that we both decided that we enjoyed and would want to keep doing, and so, as far as I remember, we just kind of picked one out of the handful that were the same on our list. We're like, okay, well, we both like doing this, this, this, let's do graphic design. So we went all in on graphic design, which kind of opened up into web design as well.
Speaker 2:So for the next year and a half, we went all in to learning everything we could about web design. We read books, listened to podcasts. I think we signed up for three different well, two different web design, business building courses and then one copywriting type, of course, and now we just learned as much as we could about it. We got on a few clients that way. Uh, we did that for a while and then after again about a year and a half, we're like you know what? This is great, we've been learning a lot, we've been having fun, but here's some things that we're not liking about our business. Um, here's what we wish we had, what we want to do differently, uh, which led to our second major pivot. We're like well, I guess, okay. Let me add a couple of things in here.
Speaker 2:During this whole process, we realized that we were giving permission to a lot of our friends and family to start their own businesses.
Speaker 2:We had siblings and, like childhood friends, come to us saying, hey, like it's so cool that you guys are starting this online business. Like that's really inspiring to me. I have this thing I want to start. Can you help me get it going? And so between the two of us, I think we had seven or eight family members or friends come to us and we helped them start their business. We helped people start a dog walking business, we helped people start a like a geriatric care business or like all sorts of different things, and throughout that process we were learning that we really enjoyed coaching and we helped people getting their foot off the ground and these ideas that they had and at least getting the initial income going and structuring everything right so that it's profitable initially. And so we made our second major pivot into coaching and decided we wanted to do more of that and help more people start up their businesses. Since then, we haven't had a major pivot, just millions of small pivots.
Speaker 3:Yes, I understand that. It's almost like a daily pivot, right Figuring out what's next.
Speaker 2:It feels like it.
Speaker 3:Yes, it feels like it 100%. That's super cool. Anything to add with that, monica?
Speaker 1:I was just going to say, like you, Randy, we really got addicted to that beginning phase of entrepreneurship. We just love being in that space with people showing them the possibilities, being there where they're all wide-eyed and excited to learn. It's so fun, it's so much fun. So we definitely kind of accidentally stumbled into this niche and it's so fun.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. So two questions are coming to my mind and I'm not exactly sure which I'm in my mind. I'm trying to think which order should I ask this to make it most impactful, but let me just put them out there to you and maybe you can help me decide which one you think would be the best one to answer first. The first question that's come to my mind is if, once again, somebody is I'm thinking of somebody that's maybe they've got a little bit of experience, like they've read up on some things, they've watched some different trainings, maybe they've taken some classes, right? First question is where do I find customers? That's one. The second question, then, is it sounds like you guys go deep into learning specific skills that were valuable in the marketplace web design, copywriting, which I agree with those as well. So that's the second question is what skill sets do you think for that beginning entrepreneur are the best place to get started? So, and then I'm not sure which is the best way to answer that, because to me they kind of go together.
Speaker 3:But those are just two questions I had for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's start with skills. I don't know, sorry, I don't know, Go for it.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking too.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the first thing I would recommend if you feel like you're listening to this, you're like any skills you do have the skill, because you have the skill to learn and the hunger to do it. So the first thing I would recommend is that you do exactly what Austin and I did and go through every skill that you have ever learned, acquired, any job that you've ever done, and write down all the skills that you already have, and then just tick off the ones you like and the ones you don't like, and maybe you find a theme. Maybe you find that you really like to knit and you really like cats, I don't know and so then you kind of find this theme and you're like, okay, well, maybe there's a potential business here where I can knit sweaters for cats, I don't know and you'll just find these different skills that come up, or you'll find that you are lacking some skills and you are very interested in learning new skills.
Speaker 1:So Austin and I specialize in the service-based business industry because we like to help people who want to travel like we do, and service-based businesses, as we were talking about earlier, are just such an easy way to start, and so, essentially, you would be going and you would be looking for online services that you can provide, typically to other business owners. I feel like it is where we have found most of them. Most of the really lucrative ones have been to other business owners. So that would be things like copywriting, web design, social media marketing is a big one IT tech any kind of development things like that are really good places to start. Kind of things like that are really good places to start. If any of those interests you take a course or go to YouTube University and learn and see if it keeps grabbing your interest and pulling you in, and then you can kind of know, like maybe this is somewhere that I want to explore, some business that I want to try to put together.
Speaker 2:Tiffany thoughts on that. I think that was very well said. I think I'm not going to lie to you and say that you have all the skills you need right now to grow a successful business, but you have skills that you can utilize right now to start, and Monica and I have invested a lot into our own education and business and we still have so much that we need to learn and want to learn, and so every year, every couple of times a year, we invest more into getting better at what we do and learning more and getting better at building up the skills that we want to have that we don't have, or get better at the ones we currently have and feel like need some polishing up. If you're just getting started, there is something that you can do with what you do have, and if you're really passionate, really set on doing something that you don't know how to do yet, go learn how to do it, and then you don't have to be the world's best cat sweater knitter to start a cat sweater knitting business, but if you know a little bit, you can start, and then I think that's how it ties into.
Speaker 2:Your other question is how do you get clients? Is just be good enough to get a couple of clients and then, as you are serving that client, continue leveling up your skills and then you can get more clients. And then you can spend that money and more time investing in better up, leveling your skills and then you can get more clients and then you can spend that money and more time investing in better up, lovings up, leveling your skills and then you can get more clients and they build on each other. So you don't have to be perfect, you don't have to be even great at anything. Just be good enough to get started, and I guarantee you have something good enough that you're good enough at to get started I will just like amend my answer just a little bit.
Speaker 1:If there's something that you like, if you're lost, you're like I just I don't even know. Go learn sales, go learn marketing, because those are going to benefit you so much, no matter where you decide to go, if you decide to knit sweaters for cats or if you decide, you know, take whatever pivots you decide to go on. Those are the two skills that every entrepreneur needs to know, needs to learn, needs to master and needs to always be working on. Which is funny because I feel like a lot of business owners are like oh, I didn't realize I had to sell to have a business. Yeah, but it's a very important skill.
Speaker 2:Well, I've heard this from a lot of business owners and I would probably agree. No matter what kind of business you run, you're going to be wearing a lot of hats, but you will always be a marketer. You will always be a salesperson, even if you can get to a point where you can hire people to do marketing for you. If you have your own marketing skills that you've developed over years, you can pick the right marketers for you, because you don't want someone who has a marketing philosophy that doesn't align with you and your values. And if you've done the work to figure out how to market and how to sell, then you can hire the right people. So later down the road you can do that, but you're always going to need it.
Speaker 3:You're always going to use it.
Speaker 2:I would agree more to answer your other question how to get your first, your initial clients. Almost always your first clients come from your personal network. When Monica and I were growing our VA well, yeah, for years when we were growing our VA business and our web design business, a lot of our first clients were family members or people that our family members knew. Other business owners from, I think, tri-cities Washington, supplied our first two years of clients because they were all people that Monica's family knew. And so I would say, like, utilize your network. And people are always really nervous or concerned about being salesy or being pushy and reaching out to people just to ask them for a referral or ask them if they know someone. There's ways to do it that are non-salesy, there's ways to do it that don't feel scummy, and there's a lot of strategies we could go into with that, but the overarching principle is lead with your relationships, lead with a connection. First, be curious about people. Be curious about where they are in their lives and what they want and what they need and what's getting in the way. But yeah, you can start with making a post on social media and let your friends and family know what you're doing now Like, hey, I'm a cat sweater knitter. Now, even if you're not asking for referrals, just say, hey, this is what I'm doing with my life now, this is the business I've started, and just get the word out there. A lot of it is word of mouth. Um, your friends will. When they're talking to their friends like, hey, did you know? You know, jonathan started a new cat sweater knitting business. Like I had no idea he was even into that. And then it goes from there and I feel like you'll find you'll be surprised at how many people will come and ask you about it.
Speaker 2:As a short little example, I started well, I kind of started up this financial coaching side hustle for like an entire three days, and then I put it on pause because I decided my attention and focus needed to be put elsewhere, oz, because I decided my attention and focus needed to be put elsewhere, and so I created a new Instagram account. I'm pretty sure there's like maybe six posts out and I have literally done nothing with it. And then the other day, out of the blue, my brother-in-law was like hey, I saw there's a new financial coach on the market. Like, you know, tell me about it. I didn't talk to anybody about it. I didn't really share it like intentionally shared a whole lot but he saw it and was curious and asked me about it and I feel like that's just because you put the word out there and I feel like that goes really really far, love that.
Speaker 3:So courage is kind of what I'm getting from you, right? It's kind of what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1:For sure, having the courage no-transcript.
Speaker 3:So, briefly talk about how having that courage so many years ago has led to this lifestyle of being a nomad. You mentioned, I believe, and I don't think we've even said it yet. You're coming to us today from Peru.
Speaker 1:Is that correct? Yeah, we're in Lima.
Speaker 3:Yep, lima Peru. Is that correct? Yeah, we're in Lima, lima Peru. So once again, I think I can just hear folks out there going to Lima Peru. How in the world, how does that happen? Talk about how that ability to have courage a few years ago has led to this lifestyle, now that literally you're not tied down to any one location. Talk about that just a little bit.
Speaker 1:Well, that was definitely a big motivator when we started. Our business is just, we wanted to travel. We I always joke that I kind of have a gypsy soul and so my little gypsy soul was really suffocating during COVID when we were stuck in Austin's parents' house. So that's a big motivator for us. When we quit our jobs and we all of a sudden had this location freedom, we couldn't go anywhere because it was COVID. But we realized that so many of our friends and family had started huge house projects during COVID and weren't able to complete them and it would bit off more than they could chew, kind of thing. So we ended up exchanging room and board for house projects and we would go stay with people all over the West Coast. We got to catch up with a lot of friends and family we hadn't seen in a long time. We learned a lot about putting together houses, about laying flooring and drywall and tons of crazy things we never thought we would do and it was really cool. We just got super scrappy with it and we just kind of figured out how to make it work.
Speaker 1:And then when we um, when we were finally able to kind of start leaving the country, we work with a humanitarian organization out of Guatemala. Um, we're Spanish interpreters, and so we had two trips, one in August, one in November and we're like, why don't we just stay there during this time? All we need is internet really to make our business work. And so we ended up living abroad and it was, oh it was amazing. It was such a cool experience to be able to live in a place for a long enough time to like really integrate with the culture and learn about, you know, learn more about the language and the food, and make friends and family everywhere we go. And, like we mentioned before, travel and adventure has always been a big part of who we are, and the more you get, the less you can give it up.
Speaker 1:And so we, after a while, we found this term digital nomad, and we found that there are people like us, living, like us, doing what we do. And we had no idea. And I instantly was like, oh my gosh, we have people, these are our community. And I was so excited and Austin was like I don't think I want to be a digital nomad. And I was like, austin, you already are.
Speaker 1:Um, so it kind of took us a while to embrace it, but, um, you know, the last several years we've been living all over Southeast Asia, all over Latin America, and it is, it is fabulous, especially when there's, like, young business owners who are working to start their business. Um, you can live in places that are cheaper and it's really helpful, um, for those low months, but it has been one of the most amazing experiences for us to go and live. So in college I was an international studies major and now I get to go live the things that I read about in books and it's just, it's amazing. I don't remember what the original question was, but yeah, you nailed it.
Speaker 3:You nailed it, that's it Right. I just wanted to get that passion of what that was all about and what it's like to actually have location freedom Right. So many people, I think, strive for that, and you guys have successfully done that, which is super cool, so congratulations. So, as we start to bring this one in for a landing, I just would like to open up the floor. You guys have shared a ton of wisdom.
Speaker 3:I know you guys are super passionate about helping people discover this entrepreneurial journey and personal development, personal growth, helping people do exactly what you're doing building small businesses. That gives them the freedom and the control of their life that they're desperately seeking. I know that's a super big passion of yours, so I just want to open it up. Do you have any kind of last pieces of information, a nugget of wisdom, some motivation to help somebody that might be like they're listening, they're like, yeah, I need to figure out how to do this and obviously Austin and Monica have got it figured out and then obviously, give them a place where they can learn more about you, anything you have going on, so that way they can connect with you after the episode here?
Speaker 2:today. Yeah, yes, actually I have a thought, that kind of tacked on to the end of Monica's thought and your question from earlier, that I feel like might be a good wrap up. So you were asking about courage and the examples that Monica was giving. Like when we first started traveling and living abroad while running our business, we would have everything planned out. Like I can't tell you how long we sat in my sister's basement and planned out our Southeast Asia trip. We had the three countries we wanted to go to and we spent hours thinking, ok, if we go to this country first and then this country, it'll be cheaper and make sure we get the flights at the right time, so we have enough time to get on the plane for the next one. And it was a headache. Flights at the right time, so we have enough time to get on the plane for the next one. And it was a headache. But I that's what I felt at the time I needed that security to know we had our flights in and our flights out. Today, like we, we buy our airline tickets a couple days before we leave. Maybe, um, we get our housing situated kind of on the go, um, and I feel like it's just we'll buy one way tickets and just kind of sort things out on the road, and I never would have done that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2:And I guess my point is courage builds on itself. The more you exercise courage, the more you're going to have courage. And that goes for travel and business. You might be really, really scared to make your very first post about your business. You might be really scared to admit to anyone, family included, that you are now a copywriter or whatever it is you want to do. But the more you talk to people about it, the more comfortable you're going to get. And maybe the fear doesn't go away necessarily, but you become more courageous. You become more courageous. And three years down the road, four years down the road, you're going to look back and wonder why you were ever afraid to start or ever afraid to bring it up to somebody. And I just honestly think the more that you can face those fears and do the scary thing anyway, the stronger you're going to get for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm genuinely so excited for all of your listeners because I know they're here listening to your wisdom all the time. They're getting so many good little nuggets and there's so much potential in every single one of your listeners and I'm genuinely so excited for wherever their entrepreneur journey takes them. If there is anybody who is really like kind of lost in figuring out what they want to do, finding something that they're passionate in, something that they just love and just want to continue building and building, and building. We do have an event starting in May and we would love for you to join us. It is the Digital Nomad Kickstarter is what we're calling it and essentially it's a month long sprint where every week, we're going to be doing trainings, we're going to have co-working sessions, we're going to have a Facebook group, we'll have other people who are striving for this location independence.
Speaker 1:We're going to start by assessing your skills, exactly what we talked about on this episode. We're going to figure out where you're at, what skills you have, where you want to go. We're going to talk about building a portfolio and getting your first clients and by the end, the goal at the end is for you to have a clear path of. This is what you're going to do to start your business, to start this journey, and we're going to have you present it in front of the group and network together as a cohort, as a community. We're super, super excited about this group. It's starting in just a couple of weeks from when this podcast is going live, so May 6th is when we're kicking everything off. So if that's something you're interested in, you can head over to austinandmonicacom. Forward slash digital nomad Kickstarter.
Speaker 3:And we'll have that link in the show notes for sure. That is super cool. So, going along with everything we've talked about today, folks, if you are on the ledge at all thinking about this entrepreneurship thing right, you've read about it, you've heard about it Maybe you're just struggling at home with work, right, you're just not satisfied with where you were or where you even are. That's kind of how I was in my journey at that mid-30s stage for myself. I realized that the corporate life it's like is this it? I honestly sat there. It's like is this it? This can't be it and it wasn't, which is great, but it takes skills, it takes learning new ideas, getting around different people.
Speaker 3:That's one thing that I probably slowed me down is I thought I was going to figure it out on my own and I thought I was going to just go do it by myself. But when I realized that there are people honest to goodness, great people that want to help you, that's the beauty of this entrepreneurship community If you find the right people that's why I kind of wanted to dig in that when we first got started is that if you find the right people, they want you to succeed. That's what they do, because if you succeed, they succeed. It's completely, almost backwards the way you look at the competitiveness in the corporate landscape, which is, once again, it's something you just have to experience for yourself.
Speaker 3:So today I want to encourage we've talked about having courage, but I want to encourage you to go look up Austin and Monica. Go to austinandmonicacom, go to this program they've got started up going on here in May. It could be exactly what you need. That's going to bridge that gap right From this life that maybe not be as as fulfilling as you're looking for, to something that who knows where you're going to be, and it can actually happen relatively quickly, and you've learned that from the stories that we've shared today and including on my stories as well. So, austin, monica, I knew this was going to be a fantastic, fantastic conversation. I just appreciate you guys coming on and sharing so much wisdom with the listeners.
Speaker 2:Oh, again, thank you so much, Randy, for having us on and for being such a great host and asking awesome questions.
Speaker 3:Fantastic, fantastic. Well, folks go out there, focus on being great, have a fantastic day. I really hope you enjoyed this episode. If you did the thing, I would ask if you would like to share this with your family and friends and go out there and maybe leave a review on your podcast platform. I would greatly appreciate that as well. Share the message, share Monica and Austin, and let's help build and bring some of these people together and just build a community that's going to be super awesome moving forward into 2024 and beyond.
Speaker 2:Thanks so much for joining us here on the Profitable Nomad Couple podcast. We appreciate you listening to us today.
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Speaker 1:Until next week, remember that you have the power to shape your own path. So stay curious, stay adventurous and stay connected.
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